Nation Of Islam

[Amar.Abu.Yahia]

As Salam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh,

I have a question. Knowing the fact that the scholars didn't make takfir about the nation of islaam (as far as I know no scholar made takfir on them) is it permissible to say that the Nation Of Islam are not Muslims? Or that they are kuffar? or that they are outside the fold of Islaam?

[Abdul.Wahid.alAwwaah]

They never entered the fold of Islam to exit it

[Hamza.ibn.Mark]

They believe that Allah came in the form of a person (Master Fard Muhammad), that Elijah Muhammad was a “Messenger of Allah”, that Salat and Saum are optional, and that the Prophet Yakub (AlayhiSalaam) was a mad scientist who created the white race.

They are clearly outside the fold of Islaam.

[Abu.Zuhayrah.Abdullaah]

Their major beliefs are all kufr akbar as is known by necessity!!!! Shaykh Muhammd ibn Abdil-Wahhaab al-'aqeel in his book "The creed of the sects of the Muslims, Jews, Christians, Philosophers, and idolaters Concerning the Angels" the author classifies them under the latter day sects that ascribe to Islam, that is right along with the Qadiyanis the Babis and the Baha'is. He specifically mentions that it known Elijah Mohamed 'did not believe except in that which the senses submit to, and thus does not believe in the Angels or a physical Resurrection '.

The following links from the old site should also prove beneficial.

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmes...m=6&Topic=3197

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmes...50&sortby=desc

In addition to this there are some specific legal verdicts that were given by some of the scholars clarifying how incarcerated Muslims should deal with them in the prison system this appeared in a book that was published within the last few years. I believe the title of the book is something to the effect of "Q&A For Incarcerated Muslims".

[Amar.Abu.Yahia]

BarkaAllahu Feekum..I will try to get these books....May Allah reward you

[Abdul.Wahid.alAwwaah]

I just uploaded our brother Musa Ricardsons talk on the Nation to my 4shared account and will try to get Dawud Adib answering questions on there asap. jazakumullah khayran http://www.4shared.com/folder/30_5SALP/_online.html

[Maher.ibn.Ahmad.Attiyeh]

Bismillaah Al-Hamdulillaah wa salatu wa salaamu 'ala rasulullaah
Amma-ba'd

The Scholars have indeed made takfeer of the Nation of "Islaam," otherwise known as "Nation of Kufr," for their vile, corrupt 'aqeedah and disbelief, and opposition to Islaam.

Questions Related to the Nation of Islaam*

Q: 43: Members of the Nation of Islaam are starting to visit the Masaajid of the Salafees. Although this group considers themselves to be Muslims, they believe that Allaah came in the person of Fard Muhammad (i.e. incarnate). It is good that they are coming and listening to the truth, but my question is: should we allow them to pray with us with this incorrect 'Aqeedah (creed) for the sake of Da'wah (calling them to Islaam) so as to not hurt their feelings and run them away, as some brothers feel? Or should we remove them from the rows, and explain to them why (we removed them) with proofs from the Qur`an and Sunnah? Please clarify for us the correct thing to do?

A: 43a: Shaykh 'Abdullaah al-Bukharee (hafidhahullaah) answered:

"If these people are coming to learn about the correct 'Aqeedah (creed or beliefs), then they should not be removed. They believe that they are Muslims even though they are not.

So they should be treated as the Munaafiqoon (hypocrites) were treated at the time of the Prophet, salallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam. The hypocrites prayed in the ranks of the Muslims, and they were well known to the Messenger, salallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam, as well as Hudhayfah, radiallaahu 'anhu. They should be taught, and allowed to pray with the Muslims."

A: 43b: This question was also posed to Shaykh Muhammad bin Hadee (hafidhahullaah), and he answered:

"They should be allowed to pray initially, if they are coming to learn about the correct 'Aqeedah. And the first thing that they should be taught about is the falseness of the 'Aqeedah of Elijah Muhammad and the truth about Islaam. So if they accept what is taught to them, they will enter into the fold of Islaam, and if not, then they should not be allowed to pray with the Muslims."

Shaykh Muhammad bin Hadee (hafidhahullaah) was then asked, "How long should the Muslims be patient with them?

The Shaykh replied:

"As long as it takes to teach them that which is correct, and the proof is established."

Shaykh Muhammad bin Hadee (hafidhahullaah) was then asked, "If removing them is going to cause bigger problems, perhaps leading to the intervention of the authorities, the Muslims not being able to use the masjid, or other than that, what should be done?"

The Shaykh replied:

"It is a must to weigh the benefit and the harm in the likes of these situations, and for the Muslim to have foresight. So if removing them is going to bring a greater evil, patience must be enacted. And Allaah knows best."

Source: The Guaranteed Path Towards Redemption and Rectification for the Incarcerated Muslim, pgs. 110-112

* This question is from the book "Islamic Ruling for the incarcerated Muslims"

Related Links (collected from this very thread):

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmes...350&sortby=asc

http://www.salafitalk.net/st/viewmes...m=6&Topic=3197

http://www.4shared.com/folder/30_5SALP/_online.html